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@bonfire@indieweb.social  ·  activity timestamp last month
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RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/12/19/implementing-encrypted-messaging-over-activitypub/

Big news for the #Fediverse! End-to-end encryption is coming to #ActivityPub.

@swf with support from @sovtechfund is coordinating two interoperable implementations.

Bonfire is proud to be one of these first two projects, alongside #Emissary by @benpate

We think #E2EE should simply be the default for any private communications, and we’re especially thrilled to bring private, trusted collaboration to the fediverse.

#JustBetweenUs #Privacy #Encryption #SocialWeb

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@ddlyh@topspicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

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How will this work for clients of servers with no JavaScript, like #snac2 and #honk? Well the server be doing the decryption as surely that breaks the point of it being "end-to-end"?
@swf @sovtechfund @benpate

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Leftist Lawyer
@LeftistLawyer@kolektiva.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate
Cool!
Now now do #YourLock. You know, the encrypted social media suggested by #KSR in Ministry for the Future???

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erebion
@erebion@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate Ooof, just another instant messenger..?

We've already had XMPP since the 90s... and since then it's become pretty reliable.

i hope there'll at least be interoperability. I'm so tired of new waya to communicate that are not interoperable with what's already there.

#xmpp

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Debacle
@debacle@framapiaf.org replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@erebion @bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate @evanprodromou

There is room for more instant messagers:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

Blog • IMs come, IMs go.

#im #timeline #sms #irc #icq #aim #msn #jabber #xmpp and so on
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erebion
@erebion@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate It doesn't matter whether people use landline or a mobile phone or even a satellite phone. They can call me.

But somehow everyone agrees it's just the way it is, you cannot contact someone that uses a different instant messenger.

Where the hell did this take the wrong turn?

We were promised the internet would let us all communicate with each other, anytime. Freely. A large network, decentralised. And suddenly we have many islands instead. :(

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erebion
@erebion@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate I know you have good intentions, new ways to communicare just make me sad as it leads to a more fractured communications landscape.

I'll still give it a try, once it is there.

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Kari'boka
@kariboka@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate is it client or server side?

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@acb@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @swf @sovtechfund @benpate Will this mean the possibility of friends-only (i.e. people you select, rather than anyone who follows you) posts on Mastodon/Pixelfed/similar? If ActivityPub ever gets mass adoption, that will be important, because when everyone’s here, so are griefers, trolls, pig-butchers and as yet uncategorised hostile actors.

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Linus Gasser
@ligasser@social.epfl.ch replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire @soatok you probably already saw this, but just in case...

Are they aware of your poc for a PKI?

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Bonfire
@bonfire@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

We hope this will enable the fediverse to become a safer space for activists and communities to organise, coordinate, and collaborate meaningfully. By making secure, user-friendly messaging a core part of the fediverse, we can help lay the groundwork for decentralised networks where people can go beyond talking in the mythical ‘global town square’ and actually organise and accomplish things together.

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Alison Wilder
@alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com replied  ·  activity timestamp last month

@bonfire is it feasible that someone could build a chat client that would let any Fediverse account privately talk with any other Fediverse account?

Because that would be insanely cool.

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